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Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by Matthew » Thu 13 Nov , 2014 1:35 pm

Hey Group-

Was thinking about purchasing these to mount on a set of OEM 17 inch 1 piece wheels. Chuck has a great article on wheels and says 15" is the widest tire you can go, but just wanted to verify these are compatible before shelling out the money.

I know the rim is 12.5" wide, so will these Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17 work?

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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by chuck » Thu 13 Nov , 2014 2:21 pm

No problem with these tires. We use them all the time. Many of my customers that buy the Cepek wheels use these.
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by Matthew » Fri 14 Nov , 2014 12:10 pm

Thanks a lot Chuck, really appreciate your expertise.

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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by h1sp » Tue 02 Dec , 2014 8:30 am

im looking at the Wrangler MTR 38x14.5x17 Kevlar reinforced sidewalls for my next tire. "No lift"
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by chuck » Tue 02 Dec , 2014 8:52 am

Those 14.5's will throw dirt all over the side of your beautiful detailed truck. <g> The MTR's really ride hard. They will rattle your truck when you go over railroad tracks.
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by h1sp » Tue 02 Dec , 2014 9:07 am

chuck wrote:Those 14.5's will throw dirt all over the side of your beautiful detailed truck. <g> The MTR's really ride hard. They will rattle your truck when you go over railroad tracks.
"Hi Chuck"

I know, I know ... this is my 3rd set of tires and Im still on the fence. Yet I always wanted the 38's. My measurement puts them right on the edge with the Alpha wheels. I think im going to go for it. I don't drive the truck in the rain anyway ... "I drive the 911 on the rainy days" ... LOL
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by chuck » Tue 02 Dec , 2014 9:18 am

In reality the 38's really aren't taller than the 37.5's. The problem with wide tires is hitting the outer edge of the wheel wells and scrubbing the front suspension on tight turns. That's why I like the Toyos because they are wider but not so wide that they stick out and cause problems.
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by h1sp » Tue 02 Dec , 2014 10:42 am

chuck wrote:In reality the 38's really aren't taller than the 37.5's. The problem with wide tires is hitting the outer edge of the wheel wells and scrubbing the front suspension on tight turns. That's why I like the Toyos because they are wider but not so wide that they stick out and cause problems.
Crazy tire web sites do show the tires to be almost the same (Chucks right again)

The specs on both tires from the websites:

- 37x13.5x17 Toyo Open Country M/T -- vs.-- Goodyear MTR with 38x14.5x17 Kevlar
- Tread depth = 21.0 vs. 21.0
- inflated diameter = 37.0 vs. 37.8
- inflated width = 14.6 vs. 14.7
_ Ply = E vs. D
- Cost (some web site) = 385.00 vs. 465.00 (Tire Rack)

it might come down to the looks and future availability ?

attached a photo of each on different wheels (but you see the look of the tread pattern)

Hmmmm.....
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by chuck » Tue 02 Dec , 2014 12:25 pm

That's why I like the Toyo. The load range is correct, they are less money than the goodyear, they are a much smoother ride and they have the rim protector.
They are made here in the USA I think in Georgia. I think they have a pretty good look too, but I'll leave that choice up to you.
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by SilverRide98 » Thu 15 Jan , 2015 4:01 pm

I bought a set of Toyo AT 37x13.5x17 on Cepek rims and loved them. They ride great, work perfect in snow, mud and last for a very long time. I liked them so much that I could wait to wear out my BFG's on my 2012 Tacoma. I changed those out to AT's went with a taller tire to get the E rating.
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by h1sp » Fri 16 Jan , 2015 6:55 am

SilverRide98 wrote:I bought a set of Toyo AT 37x13.5x17 on Cepek rims and loved them. They ride great, work perfect in snow, mud and last for a very long time. I liked them so much that I could wait to wear out my BFG's on my 2012 Tacoma. I changed those out to AT's went with a taller tire to get the E rating.
Hey SilverRide98,
Are the Toyo a true inflated diameter = 37.0 ???
Would you mind running a tape from ground to top of tire for me?

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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by h1sp » Mon 19 Jan , 2015 2:13 pm

FYI. I ran up on some New Goodyear MT/R Wranglers 37 x 12.5 x 17 mounted on a Alpha wheel and we measured them top to bottom (diameter) ..... 36".6
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by Desert Rat » Thu 22 Jan , 2015 9:02 pm

Mike

The 14.50 wide tires are a little too wide for our Alpha rims. It's just my opinion but the 13.50 wide tire looks and feels right. I currently have Irok Radials 41x14.50x17 and they really are too wide for the rim. Even the Irok website says 10"-12" rim is recommended for that width. As you may know, I'm researching tires too. There's lots of posts on Toyo MT tires vs. Goodyear MTR tires. Look it up. Lots of tire reviews (good and bad) on most of the off road websites.

Toyos are a very heavy tire, not saying that's good or bad. Goodyear MTR are a lot lighter. I do like the rim protector on the Toyo MT. I'll be deciding on what tire to buy soon but so far it's looking like Goodyear. Are you mounting them yourself? I am. Use the orange o rings, Lynch has them on sale right now. I can send you some pictures of mounting and dismounting the tires if you want when I start.
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by h1sp » Fri 23 Jan , 2015 11:14 am

Hi Desert Rat,

I pulled the trigger on the Goodyears 38's (They have been delivered)

im prepared for the can of worms it could open.

Rubbing, speedo off, slower acceleration (tire looking too heavy for the rim)

if needed: I have spring spacers ready to drop in. I might pick up new springs. I will grab some wheel spacers if needed.

I have all the parts & run flat lube from Blue Hummer Dave.

Yep, im keeping the run flats and bead locks in. LOL

We are pulling the wheels and taking them to a friends house. We will do the tire change in his garage. (I want to take our time)
* He has more experience with the 2 pc wheel than I do.. I have only helped change 3 set of H1 tires before. (its a dirty mess with run flat lube)

We should be done in a few days. I will give you an update on the job and the over all look.

On the last 3 set of tires I have always played it safe and went back with 37's ... yet I always had buyers remorse and wanted the 38's.
im looking forward to a BIG FAT tire hanging off the rim.
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Re: Toyo Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17

Post by Desert Rat » Fri 23 Jan , 2015 8:54 pm

Sounds good Mike. I think you'll be happy with the Goodyears. It's looking like I'll be going with the Goodyears too. Check out the post " Tire Question" on the HML. Lots of good info.
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Napa sells that RuGlide rubber lubricant that Rubber Duck recommends for $16.00 a gallon. Just put it in a spray bottle. I picked up a 36" tire iron made by Ken Tool Co. at Napa while I was there the other day on sale from $100.00 to $60.00 It will come in handy to pop the bead off the rims. Also, I bought the tire removal tool made for 2 piece aluminum rims that Rubber Duck sells. That thing is sweet. It's a lot cheaper then the tool that Kent Moore makes. I seen a used one go for $800.00 on Ebay several months ago.
If you were closer I'd let you guys use it. Remember to torque the bolts to 50lbs. first then to 75lbs.
Good luck on the tire swap. Take some pictures for us.
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